There’s also the sticking point that there’s not a ton of communication between Avalons, so Elder Brimble saying Wonderland is the biggest by area has a big caveat of “that I know of” because she most likely doesn’t even know about Dogpatch.
There’s also the sticking point that there’s not a ton of communication between Avalons, so Elder Brimble saying Wonderland is the biggest by area has a big caveat of “that I know of” because she most likely doesn’t even know about Dogpatch.
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The small, magically hidden islands around the mediterranean are also pretty big compared to the average building-avalon
i bet those fall under the “non-standard’ clause as well. seems likely most of the mythical community isn’t aware of those any more than humans are.
Considering that Ike’s willing to consider the rumoured cities on the bottom of oceans “avalons”
https://www.skindeepcomic.com/reader-questions/2024-reader-question-12/
I’d say that those stand a very good chance at being the actually largest, be it by area, volume (most sea creatures can move in 3D), or population. Not being required to be a location hidden from its immediate surroundings, only from the occasional surface-bound passer-by, helps a lot there.
With a name like Dogpatch. I would expext to see a few shmoos.
Might be mixing up story settings in my memory, but always thought SD’s Wonderland was actually a sub-dimension that hung off from the main plane of existence. So it couldn’t be eligible to be the biggest Avalon in the world, as it technically exists outside it.
According to Bloodcarver
https://www.skindeepcomic.com/archive/obverse-reverse-chapter-3-page-3/
all the planes a.k.a. realms, including Wonderland, are still considered part of Earth – and thus, I presume, “the world”.
I believe that the running theory in-universe is that Wonderland does actually exist somewhere in the general vicinity of Britain, but it’s been layered with so many spells of different kinds over the generations that it’s both an entirely separate ecosystem and completely impossible to detect or access from the outside. So yes and no. Technically it’s not a sub-dimension, but in practice it works in pretty much the same way.
Is there a correlation between the general human* population density of an area correlate with the size of its local Avalon(s)? Or do most big cities (ex. London, NYC, Los Angeles) just have a lot of small Avalons interspersed throughout?
*includes unturned and human-passing nonhuman folk
That would make sense, but there have been references to *The* London Avalon. Alec Hyde’s dad is a liaison from there, and Ike’s parents recently moved from there. (I’m sure it’s nothing like Diagon Alley.)
Maybe there’s a “main” Avalon in the heart of a megalopolis, and smaller ones in some surrounding burghs and suburbs? There may be a semi-official rule about not placing them too close together, for secrecy’s sake?
wait, wonderland bunny is briMBle, and a she? i thought they were briNDle and a he… that’s what the ‘characters’ link says… or are those two different characters and i’m a horrible person…
Brindle has different muttonchops, and a different nose. So I think this is a separate character?
Congrats! You have found a typo lol. And Barnaby has always been a he.
*”that I know of” feels very very important here. Like, how much communication do mythical communities have with each other?
For all we know the actually-biggest-Avalon could be in the deep into South America, Africa, or Asia, which would have very different cultural traditions than anything that developed in the West. I would put money on it being somewhere in the mountains of China or the Amazon. And if we’re talking “close to human society” I’d bet somewhere in India.
The Liverpool Avalon is still probably very impressive, but it and Wonderland are more, like, “top 10”. VERY large by anybody’s standards, but at the same time… who’s to say when secrecy is and always has been the name of the game?
That’s actually very unlikely. Avalons are a distinctly European necessity and likely a distinctly European phenomenon. It was the human hunting of mythical creatures that forced them into hiding, and forced them to congregate in ways that they probably wouldn’t without extreme duress. Without those circumstances other mythical species probably wouldn’t have a need to form the same kind of hidden, mixed communities we see in Britain and the US.
It’s even less likely in locations where the local residents didn’t have medallions made for their species.
Unfortunately for the mystics the europeans got around a lot, and at least it the era the comic is set in, with digital cameras and tourism and the ever increasing spread of cities and agriculture, “avalons” would more and more become a worldwide necessity for species who can’t hide in plain sight. Habitat loss is a major driving force of extinction, and nonhuman sapients are no exception.
The music scene seems pretty active in the Liverpool Avalon, and there’s at least some fine art going on like w Leah’s stuff. are there other art scenes, like writing, film or photography, that has a lot of participants in the Liverpool Avalon?
Why haven’t the mythicals created an internet site for communicating with each other? Is there not any coders with the knowledge to do so in the community? The conic is set back when Facebook was first taking off, isn’t it?
“R’lyeh has entered the chat…”
Uh oh.