Finally somebody told Phineas he was a good boy. FINALLY.
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Oh joy, prophetic dreams. When have those ever led to anything good?
Um… I am not sure if you are a Christian pj but one of the stories in the Bible says that a Roman solider had a vision of his regiment winning their next battle in his dreams and then the day of the battle he looked up at the clouds and saw a cross and he told his men to paint crosses on their shields and they won that battle. So my point is that in religion and sometimes make-believe there are such things as good visions.
Oops I forgot to mention that this is Atlas sorry.
hate to burst your bubble, but that’s not from the bible, I’m pretty sure that’s a story about emperor constantine. as I recall the story goes that he had a dream where he saw a cross and heard a voice say “by this sign, conquer.” and then christianity became the state religion of rome.
I wasn’t being serious but I appreciate the effort.
Yes, that was Emperor Constantine at the Battle of the Milvian Bridge.
Thanks doitean.
That particular story of Constantine is pretty much a classic example of “turned out to be maybe not really a good thing.” And also, nowhere near a story from the Bible.
If you want that, then maybe look in Acts 10, where Peter has a vision teaching him to break his religiously grounded practice of segregation (overturning a huge organizing principle of his society), explaining that “God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean.” Or the opening of the Book of Jeremiah, where God makes a pun on the word “watching,” and the young prophet sees a boiling pot about to spill disastrous warfare on to his country from the north — which he must face bravely, without fear.
I think if there’s a common theme to these, it’s that they all have to do with finding your way through turbulent times. Which is to say that, yeah, prophetic dreams can be a pain in the butt!
Well, bit such “Visions” could lead to somethimg really nad.
In the 20th century a really bad, crazy and sick man had vision of a world wide empire leaded by him, and you all know qas caused this (ober 60 million deaths)
So visions are BAAAD
You are confusing prophetic vision with personal vision. That madman didn’t get any prophetic insight into his one world order. It was just how he thought the world should work, and thus he did horrible things to make it reality. If it was a real prophetic vision, he would have succeeded.
Were they fighting vampires?
Guys you are totally missing my point. My point being that not all visions are bad. Also thanks for telling me that the story if Constantine isn’t in the Bible. I need to reread the Bible. I guess I got the story from the natural history channel.
Feel free to delete this, but…I’m irresistibly reminded of Trump’s reaction when the UCLA athletes didn’t kiss his butt fervently enough. Not saying that Phineas is vile, mind you.
Always has to be that one in the group
Samurai Jack! (watch out)
But what if trying to prevent her prophecies ends up making them come true?
Yes, I was thinking about that too. It’s called a self-fulfilling prophecy. A good example of this is the story of Œdipus Rex. The prophet/oracle had a vision that he would grow up to kill his father and wed his mother, so his parents had him killed when he was just a baby, or so they thought. In fact, the baby lived and was raised elsewhere. He then robbed and killed his own father, not knowing who he was. And proceeded to marry a queen and have children with her. Years later, he hears of the prophecy and it is revealed to him and his mother that Œdipus was actually her son. After finding out about this, she hanged herself, which led to Œdipus gouging out his own eyes. At least, that’s how I remember that story. I may have mangled it a bit, so to speak.
Wanna see the even obvious parallel? Oedipus’s mother is named Jocasta.
*gasp* I forgot about that. You’re right. It is Jocasta. I thought it sounded it a bit familiar to me.
She isn’t trying to *prevent* the prophecy – she just effectively said that she *knew* telling that dragon “no” would irrevocably start the hostilities.If anything, she’s pondering how to make a living *in spite of* now having made them enemies (likely by making the next dwelling harder, not impossible, for them to find).
Telling the dragon “no” didn’t start anything. The dragons were already hostile so agreeing to help was pointless. The attack was inevitable regardless of what she did.
It looks like it’s time to go underground. With their home and smithy in the caverns, they’ll just need a minimal storefront to peddle medallions from. Being able to teleport lets them conceal the commute. Leave no merchandise in the store overnight, and “check the back room” for anything that got left behind that day.
I get the idea that she’s not trying to prevent her prophecies so much as to navigate them.
Methink that you are both about to engage on a long voyage, back to… well, not yet America. Egypt and Greece first. However, the devil being in the details – and the three stooge demons – I would love to know those details.
Is anyone else madly curious about the bird sitting on Phineas’ shoulder? It’s just THERE, listening to all their conversations and watching them, and it never does or says anything.
I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE BIRD, DANGIT.
I’m 95% sure the bird is Ravi.
Last I checked, there was good comment section money on the bird being Ravi. We certainly haven’t seen any evidence to the contrary, and Ravi, by his own word, wasn’t a “human-looking guy” in the time of Phineas.
I agree with VeloJello. As well, if you look at Phineas’ tomb you see that bird carved on the side, as well as in different parts of the last room before the egg. So my vote is Ravi as well. Keeping quiet, which is a wonder.
Phineas talks enough for the both of them. Ravi’s so chatty in present times because he has to make up for Phin’s absence.
I may be leaping to unwarranted conclusions here, but at this point it looks like Kester is out of luck.
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Oh joy, prophetic dreams. When have those ever led to anything good?
Um… I am not sure if you are a Christian pj but one of the stories in the Bible says that a Roman solider had a vision of his regiment winning their next battle in his dreams and then the day of the battle he looked up at the clouds and saw a cross and he told his men to paint crosses on their shields and they won that battle. So my point is that in religion and sometimes make-believe there are such things as good visions.
Oops I forgot to mention that this is Atlas sorry.
hate to burst your bubble, but that’s not from the bible, I’m pretty sure that’s a story about emperor constantine. as I recall the story goes that he had a dream where he saw a cross and heard a voice say “by this sign, conquer.” and then christianity became the state religion of rome.
I wasn’t being serious but I appreciate the effort.
Yes, that was Emperor Constantine at the Battle of the Milvian Bridge.
Thanks doitean.
That particular story of Constantine is pretty much a classic example of “turned out to be maybe not really a good thing.” And also, nowhere near a story from the Bible.
If you want that, then maybe look in Acts 10, where Peter has a vision teaching him to break his religiously grounded practice of segregation (overturning a huge organizing principle of his society), explaining that “God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean.” Or the opening of the Book of Jeremiah, where God makes a pun on the word “watching,” and the young prophet sees a boiling pot about to spill disastrous warfare on to his country from the north — which he must face bravely, without fear.
I think if there’s a common theme to these, it’s that they all have to do with finding your way through turbulent times. Which is to say that, yeah, prophetic dreams can be a pain in the butt!
Well, bit such “Visions” could lead to somethimg really nad.
In the 20th century a really bad, crazy and sick man had vision of a world wide empire leaded by him, and you all know qas caused this (ober 60 million deaths)
So visions are BAAAD
You are confusing prophetic vision with personal vision. That madman didn’t get any prophetic insight into his one world order. It was just how he thought the world should work, and thus he did horrible things to make it reality. If it was a real prophetic vision, he would have succeeded.
Were they fighting vampires?
Guys you are totally missing my point. My point being that not all visions are bad. Also thanks for telling me that the story if Constantine isn’t in the Bible. I need to reread the Bible. I guess I got the story from the natural history channel.
Feel free to delete this, but…I’m irresistibly reminded of Trump’s reaction when the UCLA athletes didn’t kiss his butt fervently enough. Not saying that Phineas is vile, mind you.
Always has to be that one in the group
Samurai Jack! (watch out)
But what if trying to prevent her prophecies ends up making them come true?
Yes, I was thinking about that too. It’s called a self-fulfilling prophecy. A good example of this is the story of Œdipus Rex. The prophet/oracle had a vision that he would grow up to kill his father and wed his mother, so his parents had him killed when he was just a baby, or so they thought. In fact, the baby lived and was raised elsewhere. He then robbed and killed his own father, not knowing who he was. And proceeded to marry a queen and have children with her. Years later, he hears of the prophecy and it is revealed to him and his mother that Œdipus was actually her son. After finding out about this, she hanged herself, which led to Œdipus gouging out his own eyes. At least, that’s how I remember that story. I may have mangled it a bit, so to speak.
Wanna see the even obvious parallel? Oedipus’s mother is named Jocasta.
*gasp* I forgot about that. You’re right. It is Jocasta. I thought it sounded it a bit familiar to me.
She isn’t trying to *prevent* the prophecy – she just effectively said that she *knew* telling that dragon “no” would irrevocably start the hostilities.If anything, she’s pondering how to make a living *in spite of* now having made them enemies (likely by making the next dwelling harder, not impossible, for them to find).
Telling the dragon “no” didn’t start anything. The dragons were already hostile so agreeing to help was pointless. The attack was inevitable regardless of what she did.
It looks like it’s time to go underground. With their home and smithy in the caverns, they’ll just need a minimal storefront to peddle medallions from. Being able to teleport lets them conceal the commute. Leave no merchandise in the store overnight, and “check the back room” for anything that got left behind that day.
I get the idea that she’s not trying to prevent her prophecies so much as to navigate them.
Methink that you are both about to engage on a long voyage, back to… well, not yet America. Egypt and Greece first. However, the devil being in the details – and the three stooge demons – I would love to know those details.
Is anyone else madly curious about the bird sitting on Phineas’ shoulder? It’s just THERE, listening to all their conversations and watching them, and it never does or says anything.
I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE BIRD, DANGIT.
I’m 95% sure the bird is Ravi.
Last I checked, there was good comment section money on the bird being Ravi. We certainly haven’t seen any evidence to the contrary, and Ravi, by his own word, wasn’t a “human-looking guy” in the time of Phineas.
I agree with VeloJello. As well, if you look at Phineas’ tomb you see that bird carved on the side, as well as in different parts of the last room before the egg. So my vote is Ravi as well. Keeping quiet, which is a wonder.
Phineas talks enough for the both of them. Ravi’s so chatty in present times because he has to make up for Phin’s absence.
I may be leaping to unwarranted conclusions here, but at this point it looks like Kester is out of luck.