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I’m gonna kill her.
I go the Poison, I’ll meet you after the comics over. Sooner if she meets Anthony.
No, hold the poison…. She’s not worth it…
*turns away with head held high and hugs both Ike and Rhonda*
*still holding myself from strangling her* just…. want to know how this all will turn out.
Well she would get on very well with buggane Hitlar. ;)
Some of us would not show such restraint to that bigot. I’d belt my own mom for a comment like that.
Conversely, I would be trying to prevent my mom from belting someone for making that comment, as well as my sister.
My family’s awesome.
The more I reread it the more I think, That is my sister!! OMG Kory you got it so on the mark that I am having flashbacks to my evil sister!! Well Done!!!!!!
Someone called for me?
This is my EXACT thought when I read this page. I CHANTED it outloud.
Well that was… rather worse than I was expecting.
W O W
Ha! Ike in panel 5 captures the mood.
given Ike is more feline than equine in his natural and hybrid forms, plus the who “manticore are deadly” thing, i doubt Ike would have much luck with female Buggane’s.
and i think i’m going to like Ike’s Stepdad.. obviously he must really be in love to put with Ike’s mom, but he also seems to be a nice guy.
I know your hideous D8
Oh poor Ike and Rhonda. And poor Horace. He truly seems like a decent guy.
Mythical creatures aside, this is a very serious thing I have with my mom. Not in public of course, but racism in relationships is strong within her.
“Do you not see what happened to your uncle? He married someone white (we’re Asian) and they divorced. So did your aunt with a black man. They are just not compatible with our lifestyle.”
“I don’t think dating/liking/loving a white guy is going to turn out well. You should find another Asian boy. We have the same values!”
I love my mom, of course, and these words happen once every year or so, but it’s something that bothers me each time it comes up. I feel sorry for Ike, especially since this must have happened quite frequently in the past.
Well, seeing Ike’s utter surprise in response to Rhonda’s initial flirting, he probably haven’t had to suffer this directly pointed against any partner of his before. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if Lynn has told him this many times over anyway…
“You should find another Asian boy. We have the same values!”
I take it that an answer along the lines of “if we did, this discussion wouldn’t even happen” would be too offensive … ?
Haha, yea. I don’t know if this is common in other families, but if I said something like that I’d probably be disowned in a worse-case scenario, or bitchslapped in a best case. But I wouldn’t say things like that to anyone, anyway.
I’m not mad at my mom for saying these things, but sometimes her traditional “values” are just not relevant anymore, especially since we’re living in a Western society.
She’s much MUCH better than my neighbor’s mom, though. When my neighbor was dumped, his mother asked my mom if I could be his girlfriend. Arranged marr– uh- dating! I agreed with my mom that she was expecting and wanting TOO much out of society.
Give her a smack upside the head every time it happens?
Aw, geeze, Horace reminds me of the sane, polite spouse/child who’s almost always with the customer having a hissy fit in a store, and how utterly embarrassed they are when they try to do damage control.
“I know you’re hideous.” Oof, Kory, you might be creating one of the worse mother-characters of all time.
I think creating a parent character who isn’t tolerant is a good balance for the comic’s universe considering all of the other parents seem cool. At least the ones shown.
I agree that Lynn is positive for the story as a whole. This doesn’t mean we can’t dislike her, though. ;3
I can’t wait for Lynn to encounter Mary Finn. You know, the matriarch of one of the oldest and most respected families in the society of the Avalon and someone to is, herself, the offspring of an inter-species marriage and the mother of two visibly cursed sons whose differences she just accepts as part of who they are.
That would be fun to see.
I’m more waiting for her to meet Alec. It could be rather fun.
*Which* of the two will be the one having fun is up for debate … :-S
Actually, I’d suspect that apart from Alec’s attitude clashing with Lynn’s, the meeting wouldn’t have issues on species purity, as both Lynn and Alec are pure bred.
Of course, with the bugbear radar, such a meeting could well take some time to have the chance to occour.
Since Alec has been friends with Ike for years and came with him from London to Liverpool, and Ike mentioned that he’s met Alec’s dad, I’d say it’s a pretty safe bet Alec and Lynn have already met and in fact, know each other fairly well.
I’ma slap a bitch.
But seriously though, consider where she’s come from. At one point, Ike’s mom had a relationship with a feline species (Manticorne) and as a result had a crossbreed child and no husband to help her through it.
Then, the only person that seemed to be steady with her is another buggane, and now she has two healthy children with him. Perhaps it’s not because of ‘tradition’ that she wants Ike to date a buggane, but because she doesn’t want him to be alone like she was?
Yeah, I can see Lynn’s logic, but it is so clearly logic that will lead to long-term harm that it’s downright painful to see at play.
I can almost see it if I squint. She insists on calling him by a “proper buggane name.” She objects to him being with a feline, because maybe that means he’s closer to his own more feline side. Maybe she doesn’t want Cyan and Lee to be close to some nebulous culture, she wants Ike closer to their example of a proper buggane household. She’s doing everything she can to basically temper the disadvantage she gave him through her choice of partner by forcing him to identify with the side of the family people don’t shy away from. She’s just…doing it very wrong.
Damn it, I didn’t want to feel sympathy for her.
None of that really excuses the fact that she’s being a straight up bitch though. These are things she could have pulled Ike aside to tell him but instead broadcasts it to everyone.
I’d be surprised if we don’t see the repercussions of her conversation choices in the next page or two…Mostly through Rhonda if she at all decides to react verbally.
Of course, no one in the comic has talked about how that relationship worked out, or who left whom…
Rhonda, I know exactly what you should do:
1) Pat the little brother’s head,
2) Smile at the husband,
3) Give Ike a big old smooch right on the lips,
4) Give Ike’s mom the finger while walking away, dragging Ike bodily if necessary.
1 & 2 are definitely good. 3 is questionable. 4 is definitely no.
Seriously? Rhonda has the higher moral ground here. There’s no need for her to debase herself by purposefully antagonizing Ike’s mother. Sure, Ike’s exasperated with his mom, but that’s something between the two of them. Don’t be an asshole just become someone else is a jerk. People will appreciate you more for it.
And the mother won’t think that she’s done anything wrong. You should always call out racists for their attitudes.
It’s about realizing that this is a toxic situation and ending the conversation as bluntly and strongly as is feasible. You may be right, though.
Rhonda, why did you have to apologize? You did nothing wrong. Ike, run and hide and elope with Rhonda…
I think it’s more of the “Excuse me?” kind of “I’m sorry?” thing. Like, “I can’t possibly have heard that right.”
I’d say Rhonda’s “I’m sorry” is a cross between a reflexive apology and a reaction of “Wait. What? That’s not the reaction I was expecting. Could you repeat that because I think I missed something.”
You’re one to talk, Lynn. You’re the one who had a fling with a Manticore.
I cannot believe how infuriating she is.. I can completely understand Ike’s frustration with this whole event.
I get how Ike is irritated all the time now, with a parent like that who wouldn’t?
Called it! Ike’s mum is a Bigot.
um i was wondering will the link part of the site make a come back i liked reading some of those comics :/ oh yes the new comic page is amazing and beautful tho its alway that way :)
Oh, *wow*. That’s a whole new level of … something. Not quite sure how to word it politely.
Anyone need a halberd all of a sudden?
A halberd is insufficient.
What is needed is a relatively unremarkable, blood and gore caked, silver hammer.
I have one of those…
Minus the gore so far, but the Hammer of Justice trembles with suppressed indignation and rage!
(I am actually an armourer/skilled craftsman in RL…I have a workbench covered with hammers of all sizes and shapes.)
I think you’re about to get a lot of orders all of a sudden for some reason.
Ironbadger, the silver hammer I was referring to, once belonged to a Maxwell Edison.
I’d be quite surprised if you’d not heard of it.
Maxwell’s silver hammer, yes.
But I chose to go a different route. :)
Not a silver hammer. A blocky short handled hammer made of Uru metalm with an enchantment on it that you must be worthy of it to even be able to lift it.
Closer, yes. :)
My dishing hammer is made from a 4 pound sledge.
Not impossible for most to lift.. But its a heavy thing.
The Hammer of Justice is also a World of Warcraft reference.
(I have a Tauren paladin..Don’t really play alliance side.)
Thank you, Horace. Gosh, Ike’s mom needs a dose of reality :P I love the way these characters are written, so many of them are like actual human beings i know.
Lynn, dearest, your son has already met someone who has been able to see – and push – past every issue that he has. Now, a quick perusal of a map tells me that there are a number of short piers within easy reach of your location – why don’t you take a nice long walk off one?
Horace: That’s actually a good idea. You always feel better after a swim, don’t you dear?
Greenwood, your suggestion for what Lynn should do is somewhat useless, since bugganes have gills.
I know that Liverpool’s harbor lost a lot of importance over the last half century, but surely there must still be *some* probability of her meeting a propeller!? :-/
Well, yes, I thought about that, hence the line about feeling better after a swim! >:=)>
Reminds me of a line from the computer game “Tachyon: The Fringe”…
“Next time you feel like dropping in, keep walking until you get to the pier, and then drop in.” (Imagine that being said in Bruce Campbell’s voice. The awesome is strong with this one.)
Uh oh Horace. She’s got that look telling you you better shut up!
I hope we get to find out just what the heck Horace sees in her at some point in this chapter.
My boyfriends parents are Jehovah’s Witnesses… I’m not a JW and he’s not one anymore. I know that feel, Rhonda. It’s mildly terrible to know that when I marry the love of my life I’m never going to be approved of by his parents.
The world cries out for justice!
Or just Liverpool, in a small enclave.
$@&$$#%%^!!! You are such a frigging ass, Lynn!!! No wonder you’re related to a horse!!!
Also Ike, you are not hideous. You’re kinda cute.
Some people are toxic, this is an unfortunate truth and it is best to live far away from them. There are books written about this. Too bad he has a toxic mother, I’ve known some people with toxic mothers, and it is a horrible situation.
wow… just… wow… -_-; she was a little obnoxious before, but now I’m really starting to dislike this character. or at least dislike what she stands for.
Ike’s mom is an ethnic purist, probably should have see it coming. Kind ironic considering what her demographic does, you know the whole imitating anything quirk they have and all.
I still want to know what happened to Anthony Gillis and his Harpy curse
I kind want to no myself, Anthony or Blanche haven’t yet had so much a cameo
GL with the preorder. Only the stag medallion option is available. Will there be more griffon ones to select?
Oops! Gryphons are available now! I didn’t realize they had run out!
Seriously, how was Ike made? Did Lynn just get really drunk one night?
Since Manticores don’t have medals and can’t shapeshift, it’s safe to assume that Lynn had some pretty wild college years before settling down with Horace.
Hi, my name’s Ike. I’m a pink magical fairytale creature and my mom’s an overbearing racist.
I laughed probably harder than I should have at this.
Oh my god his mom is the worst.
But, reading about this, makes me wonder more about how she screwed Ike’s father. Did he cover his identity with magic or something?
Given her ‘toxic’ personality, and the general consensus that Manticore tend to be somewhat… irritable… I can see it going something like ‘Wow, your an evil stuck up racist pig… I like that, want to get some beer?’
She looks…so horrified. I would be surprised and HAPPY if my son has found a nice girl that looks past his unusual-ness. Good job, Horace; be the good guy. I think Rhonda will like you
I wonder if Ike tastes like fish….
Probably more of a fish-rolled-in-hairball taste
BAHAHAHAHAH!! *GASP! WHEEZE!* OMG, can’t *gasp* stop laughing!! AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Why, Rhonda, I didn’t know you’re a loveable character …
… er, sorry, I meant SHOVEable … >;->
can you re do the link section please thank you
Well you suck as a mother m’lady.
Now I’m curious about a few things. Are inter-species relationships a common thing, or are they frowned upon? Do bugganes in general tend to be more “purist” than most other species, or is that just Ike’s mom? Just judging by some of the reactions, Lynn’s behavior seems to be rude but not entirely unexpected by the ones that know her.
Also I find it darkly ironic that the name of this one is “Kill them with kindness” and most of the comments are about the terrible things people want to do to Ike’s mom. Get with the message, people.
Daiga, the kindness will be to Ike, by forcibly inhuming Lynn, with violence.
Clearly she’s grown more racist over time. Sad, but it happens. More interestingly, her overbearing nature and presence in Ike’s life could easily have lead to him not finding “nice buggane girls” appealing. It’d be interesting to find out if that’s the case.
The really sad thing here is that I completely sympathize with Ike. Lynn happens to have this issue in common with my own mother. Then again, “not in OUR family” racism isn’t all that uncommon in my region. I was just shocked because my mom didn’t seem racist (or ethnic purist or whatever) until it became personal instead of theoretical. I can easily imagine the mix of anger, embarrassment, and disappointment Ike is feeling at his mom’s behavior.
Here’s the crazy part: I still don’t really “hate” Lynn. I certainly don’t like her very much right now, but I’m willing to give her a chance to show some redeeming qualities.
Honestly, killing with kindness works in these situations. As someone who has a family that is Christian (sorta) on my mom’s side and atheist (for sure) on my Dad’s side, we “killed them with kindness” at every family dinner for years. One by one, even the ones who hated us have started to talk and even make friendly overtures. It works. You just have to wait a while. Try it Ike, and you won’t be disappointed at how fast your mother (harridan is a descriptor) at first backs off, and is then confused. Arguing with her is just bringing you down to her level.
Whoa…Ike’s mom has some serious eyebrows
I see fireworks coming soon…
(panel four) Well, you didn’t tell me you’d decided to move here…
Since I’m restraining myself, I’ll just say this: I like Lynn’s face in panel 4.
I pity Horace in his relationship.
goddamnit, of course she’s a Karen
Wow, what a class A jerk.